Mailing List Questions

Disclaimers

The following disclaimers apply to all mail lists, and all postings to the Boreal Web Site and Classifieds:
  • Mail Lists:
    Boreal Access does not endorse and is not responsible for any statement, opinion, or advice given or made by anyone using this mail list. All postings are those of the author and you rely on such information at your own risk. In cases of willful abuse of the policies set forth for this list, Boreal Access reserves the right to take whatever action it determines appropriate, including termination of access privileges and/or legal action.

  • Boreal Web Site and Classifieds:
    Boreal Access does not endorse and is not responsible for any statement, opinion, or advice given or made by anyone using this site. All postings are those of the author and you rely on such information at your own risk.

    Information posted to this website is publicly accessible.  By posting information to the Boreal website, you agree that said information will be available to the general public, and you release Boreal from all responsibility for any and all actions, including but not limited to legal or criminal action, which occur as a result of someone viewing the information you have posted.

    Your submission may be removed by Boreal Access at its own discretion, for any reason. Policies will be enforced. Offensive postings will be removed. In instances of willful abuse, Boreal Access reserves the right to take whatever action it determines appropriate, including termination of access privileges and legal action.

    Although Boreal reserves the right to remove content deemed inappropriate, the fact that Boreal has not removed a particular posting does not indicate or imply that Boreal agrees with or endorses the opinions, advice or other information stated in that posting. Any opinions, statements or advice given in member-submitted postings are not necessarily those of Boreal Access.

What's the difference between the Classified Ads and the news and for-sale lists?

See the table below for the differences between the Classified Ads and the mailing lists, such as news and for-sale

 Classified Ads news & for-sale lists 
Goes to people's email No (unless a person has signed up for the Classified Ads digest)Yes, to all list members
Listed on the Boreal home pageYes, for 48 hours after the ad is placedNo
Boreal members can browse ads on the Boreal websiteYes, using the Classified Ads linkYes, using the Mail List Archives link
Non-Boreal members can see the adYesNo
Can include a photo with the adYesNo
Can use special formatting, like special fonts, bold text and colorYes No
Only Boreal members may post adsYesYes
You must subscribe to the list to post an adNo - all Boreal members may post adsYes - only list members may post items to a list
How to post an adVia a form on the Boreal websiteVia email, or using a form on the Boreal website

How can I get help with a list?

  • If you ever need help with the list, address an e-mail message to Majordomo@boreal.org, leave the subject line blank, and type the word help in the body of the message. Mail it and a page full of info will be automatically mailed back to you.

    All postings are archived and you can retrieve past postings. The info on this is also in the help message.

How do I subscribe or unsubscribe to a list?

  • To automatically subscribe or unsubscribe to the 'news', 'for-sale', 'discussions', and 'ads' mail lists click here.

  • To subscribe to a list send an e-mail message to Majordomo@boreal.org, leave the subject line blank and in the body of the message type:
    subscribe "list name" "your e-mail address"
    Do not type the quotes - for example type subscribe news joe@boreal.org.

    Send the message and you will receive a welcome message for that group that explains what the group is about. If you want to unsubscribe yourself use the word unsubscribe instead of subscribe. One of the things that a help message will give you is a list of the commands like 'subscribe' and 'unsubscribe' that you can ask majordomo.

  • The 'news', 'for-sale', 'ads' and 'discussions' lists are for Boreal members only. Because of this, only boreal.org email addresses may be subscribed to those lists.

  • All members are automatically subscribed to the general list. We ask that you please stay subscribed to the general list, as this is where news and info about Boreal and the service we provide is posted. The other lists are optional.

What mail lists are available?

  • The lists that are now active and open to all members are:
    general - information from Boreal
    news - community news information
    for-sale - personal items for sale
    ads - commercial items for sale
    discussions - forum for topics of discussion
    non-profit - announcements for non-profit organizations
    pcgurus - PC tech help
    macheads - Mac tech help
    beargrease - race information
    birding - birding news and information
    gtwise - Fire information for Gunflint Trail residents

     

    These lists are described in detail in the next section.

  • If you have an idea for a new list just let us know.

  • You can run your own list if you want. The software will let you maintain a list via e-mail.

    A list can also be private, that is it is open only to members and its contents are not viewable by the public.

    Please contact me for more info or if you have any questions.

    Jack McDonnell
    Boreal Access
    jack@boreal.org
    218-387-9471

Which list should I post my message to?

If you're not sure which list to post your message to, please check the list rules below, and take a look at the examples at the bottom.  Many common types of postings are listed in the examples.  If you're still unsure, call the Boreal office (387-9471) and ask.  It's better to check first than to send to the wrong list and 1) annoy people who otherwise would have been potential customers and 2) risk being removed from the lists for posting inappropriate content.

Please also follow the list guidelines for all messages.

  • general:The general list is to be used ONLY by the management for topics relating to Boreal Access and its operation. Examples are potential down times or interruption of services, modem info, new software or hardware that has been installed.

     

  • news:The news list should be used for:
    • upcoming non-commercial events
    • public announcements
    • items of general community interest

    The news list should not be used for:

    • threads, topics for discussion or ongoing discussions - These should be posted to the discussions list.
    • political or personal opinion - Messages containing political or personal opinion are prohibited from the news list. You may announce political events such as rallies but may not include political opinions in these announcements. Please use the discussions list to post political opinions.
    • commercial messages of any kind - This includes public events held at your place of business, job openings, announcements of business hours or closed dates, or any other item related to a commercial place of business.  All such messages should only be posted to ads. Exception: If your business is hosting a non-profit fundraiser you may post it to the news list, as long as it's clearly stated that this is a fundraising event for such-and-such an organization.
    • for-sale items - You should never post the same item to the news and for-sale lists!

     

  • for-sale: The for-sale list should be used to advertise items you're selling or looking to acquire personally. It may not be used for selling commercial items. For the purposes of the list, commercial items are defined as anything you or anyone else made or acquired for the purpose of selling or renting it, or any goods or services that you're selling or renting professionally.

     

  • ads: If you want to buy or sell something commercially, announce a special event hosted by a place of business, or advertise a job opening, post it to ads.

     

  • discussions: If you would like to participate in an ongoing discussion of issues of interest, use the discussions list. The purpose of this list is to 1) post information about the current world, national, state, or local affairs/events, 2) ask for information, and 3) offer topics of discussion or debate.

     

  • non-profit: Use the non-profit list for discussions about your non-profit organization.

     

  • pcgurus and macheads: If you are having trouble with your new Gateway 2000 or those wonderful Packard Bells or if you've found a neat piece of pc software you want to tell everyone about... the list pcgurus is the place to go. The same for Mac users...try macheads.

     

  • beargrease: The beargrease list has been very active and is being used to help the distribution of news for the upcoming race.

     

  • birding: The birding list has been created to share information about birds and birding in the county, and bird sightings, as well as birding events.

     

  • gtwise: The gtwise email list is for residents of the Gunflint Trail Corridor and other Cook County locations. You do not need to be a Boreal Access member to subscribe to this list. This list is to be used to post information concerning forest fire preparedness, mitigation, fire danger, current fire situations. It may be used to post meeting times, schedules and information. It can also be used to discuss topics of community interest.

     

  • Examples: Below are some example items and which list they should be posted to:
    • I'm having a garage sale: Post to for-sale (ads is ok, too)
    • I'm having a sale at my store: Post to ads.
    • I'm hosting a community event at my store: Post it to ads. You may not consider it a promotional event, but the people receiving the message will.
    • I just heard about a dangerous new virus and want to make sure everyone knows about it: Don't post it to any list.  If you must post this, post it to discussions. A better idea is to forward the information to the Boreal office so they can verify that it's not a hoax and let the membership know if it's a threat.
    • There's a political protest being planned: Post it to news AS LONG AS YOU DON'T STATE ANY POLITICAL OPINION IN THE MESSAGE! If the message contains anything other than a simple statement of what the rally is for, send it to discussions. This is ok: "There's a rally to protest the president's policies". This is not: "There's a rally to protest the way the president's policies are destroying the environment and endangering our future."
    • I'm building and selling crafts as a hobby: Post to ads. (Since you're building them to sell them, even though it's a hobby for you it's considered a commercial posting.)
    • My garden overproduced this year and I want to sell the excess: Post to for-sale and/or ads.
    • I have extra space in my garden, so I use it to grow produce to sell: Post it to ads.
    • Someone posted a message to news and I want to respond to it: Post it to discussions or better yet, send your response to the individual who posted it. Any time you respond to a message that was sent to a list it's called a thread, and threads are limited to the discussions list.
    • I'm looking for help at my place of business: Post it to ads.
    • I'm selling items or hosting a fundraiser to benefit a registered non-profit organization: Since this is for a non-profit organization you may post it to for-sale or ads. Please be clear in your posting as which non-profit organization will benefit from your sale or event.
    • I'm advertising for my business, which is registered as a non-profit: This is a gray area.  If people are paying money for the services you offer you should probably post this to ads, not for-sale.  Consider how it will appear to the people receiving it - if it reads like an ad for a for-profit business, please post it to the ads list only.
    • I need to find an item and want to know if anyone in the community has one they're willing to part with: Post it to for-sale or ads.
    • I just replaced some furniture or shelving in my store, and want to get rid of the old stuff:  Since you're just cleaning house and are not in the business of selling furniture or shelving, this is probably ok to post to the for-sale list, unless, of course, your store is a furniture store!  Please do NOT include a plug for your business in the message, however, unless you post the message to ads@boreal.org.